From RedondoRcd at aol.com Mon Jan 1 12:05:58 2001 From: RedondoRcd at aol.com (RedondoRcd@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:42 2005 Subject: Massage Therapists? Message-ID: <27.f7ee91b.27822f16@aol.com> I'm looking for recomendations for some good, Las Cruces sports massage therapists. Part of my resolutions for a healthier, happier new year. Thanks. D.Hall. From Marshall_Hill at email.msn.com Mon Jan 1 18:24:26 2001 From: Marshall_Hill at email.msn.com (Marshall_Hill) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:43 2005 Subject: January BMBA Meeting Reminder Message-ID: This note is just to remind everyone that our monthly BMBA meeting for January is going to be next week on the 10th and not tomorrow on the 3rd of January. I apologize for any inconvenience this change may have caused. I would also like to wish all of you a very Happy New Year! I hope to see all of you next week at Grigg's Restaurant. Thanks, Marshall Hill From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Wed Jan 3 13:34:53 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:43 2005 Subject: [NMCycling] Tentative Race Calendar available In-Reply-To: <200101032000.NAA20147@inago.swcp.com> References: <200101032000.NAA20147@inago.swcp.com> Message-ID: <14931.36077.889753.218787@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Cliff> Since it's now actually the new year, I couldn't procrastinate any Cliff> longer and have put up the 2001 racing calendar on the NMCycling Cliff> web site (http://www.swcp.com/nmcycling). This calendar is Cliff> TENTATIVE, so please expect changes to happen. Please look over Cliff> the calendar and send me any comments. Cliff> For the promoters out there, please make sure I've got your dates Cliff> correct. And please get me your flyers when they are available so Cliff> I can publish them on the site. I also wanted to let everyone know I should have the initial NMORS calendar on-line by Friday. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From pizingo at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 5 07:02:55 2001 From: pizingo at worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:43 2005 Subject: NYTimes article re: road ban in US forests Message-ID: <002c01c07720$36bd2c40$d4024a0c@oemcomputer> This article may be of interest to the mail-list..... Road Ban Set for One-Third of U.S. Forests http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/05/politics/05ROAD.html January 5, 2001 By DOUGLAS JEHL WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 In the biggest land conservation act in decades, President Clinton will approve an order on Friday putting nearly a third of the national forest land permanently off limits to road building and logging. The move, covering more than 58 million acres in 39 states, is to be cast by the White House as a capstone in the president's efforts to protect public lands from development. It would effectively prohibit not only commercial logging but also oil and gas development across an area larger than the nation's current national parks. And while not specifically banned, off-road vehicle activity would probably be severely limited in the roadless areas because of their inaccessibility. The president's order, a strengthened version of an October 1999 administration proposal, is likely to set off furious challenges from Western states and Republican lawmakers who have called the plan hasty and irresponsible. Among those who plan to head almost immediately to federal court to try to block the sweeping effort is the governor of Idaho, who with other Westerners has denounced the action as an unwise intrusion into land-use decisions better made at a local level. In the presidential campaign, President-elect George W. Bush aligned himself with the plan's critics, on the ground that it paid too little heed to Western concerns about the impact on the local timber industries and other enterprises. But Mr. Bush has not said whether he will seek to overturn the action, a step that could be accomplished only through cumbersome new rule-making proceedings or action by Congress. A Bush spokeswoman, Juleanna Glover Weiss, said tonight, "We will be taking a look at all of President Clinton's executive orders and his rule-making history after Jan. 20, and that is all I'm going to say." Mr. Clinton is expected to portray the forest-protection plan as a bold answer to a pressing national need "to protect all this before it's too late." Not since the presidency of Jimmy Carter, when much of Alaska was designated as wilderness area, has so much federal land been set aside for additional safeguards. Environmentalists hailed the order as rivaling only the steps taken by President Theodore Roosevelt in laying the foundation for today's national forest system. "This is a great moment in history, and it is something for which our children will express gratitude," said Ken Rait, who as director of the Heritage Forests Campaign was a leader among those lobbying the administration for the move. In putting the new protections in place, Mr. Clinton chose to bypass Congress, because of stiff opposition there, and to rely instead on administrative powers that allow considerable latitude in drafting federal rules. But his opponents, led by Gov. Dirk Kempthorne of Idaho, said they intended to argue in their legal challenge that the process was both flawed and politically driven and that it should be reversed. "Idaho will sue," Governor Kempthorne said in a telephone interview tonight. He called the action an example of "absolutely flawed public policy that has stiffed the states." A top aide to Senator Larry Craig, Republican of Idaho, said tonight that Congressional Republicans had not decided whether to try to overturn the new rule, but he predicted that the legal fight would succeed. "This is the Clinton administration trying to beat the clock," the aide said, "and its credibility is going to suffer when it comes to judicial review." A previous effort to grant permanent protection to roadless areas in the national forests was blocked by court order, during the Carter administration, more than 20 years ago, on the ground that the rule-making process did not meet the standards of federal law. But a senior administration official who outlined Mr. Clinton's plan in a telephone interview today said he was confident that the Clinton administration's much more painstaking effort would withstand any legal or legislative challenge. "This is very much in the national interest, and the public overwhelmingly supports it," the official said, noting that the vast majority of the more than 1.5 million people who expressed their views to the administration during a public comment period last spring favored the plan to increase forest protection. With its unveiling in the final three months of Mr. Clinton's presidency, the road ban joins a lengthening list of last-minute White House rule-making in the environmental arena that has been shaped to withstand any challenge by Mr. Bush. But proponents of the plan said they remained concerned that even if the new president and Congress did not mount a head-on challenge, they might still undermine the rules by choosing not to enforce them. "This is truly a landmark," said Nathaniel Lawrence, a senior lawyer with the Natural Resources Defense Council. "But I think the other shoe has yet to drop in terms of whether Congress heeds the popularity of this, and also whether the incoming Bush administration tries to gut it through lax administration and creative implementation." Among the loudest opponents of the plan have been representatives of the timber and energy industries, who argue that it would deny them access to resources that the nation might otherwise need to import. At a time when natural gas shortages have sent prices soaring, industry has argued that large gas reservoirs might lie beneath roadless area and that it would be particularly unwise to do anything that might limit future supplies. But administration officials said their own studies found that no more than 2 percent of the nation's untapped natural gas reserves were in those national forest areas that would be off limits to roads. The final plan approved by Mr. Clinton will be put into law in the form of a final rule to be signed by Dan Glickman, who as agriculture secretary oversees the national forests. The setting for the announcement will be the National Arboretum in Washington, and those who will attend include Mike Dombeck, who as the Forest Service chief was among the main architects of the plan. The forest-protection plan covers all of the remaining national forest land that has not already either been developed or granted permanent protection as a wilderness area. The move goes well beyond a draft blueprint laid out by the administration last spring, which would have covered about 40 million acres of forest land, and it is even more restrictive than a final Forest Service plan released in November. The Tongass National Forest in Alaska, the nation's largest and one that in some versions would have been exempted from the roadbuilding ban, is included in the final plan, although timber sales already concluded will be honored. In general, under the plan, the only logging permitted in the roadless areas would be for habitat restoration and fire prevention. Even then, a senior administration official said, the new rules make clear that only small trees the ones most prone to fire and least valuable could be cut. "We want to make sure that this doesn't become a loophole for future logging," the official said ___________________________ Karen Peissinger (915) 587-4347 pizingo@att.net -or- kgp@sprintpcs.com (sends email to mobile phone) From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 5 12:10:35 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:44 2005 Subject: NMORS logo contest Message-ID: <14934.7211.934085.395500@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> While I'm working on the initial 2001 NMORS stuff, I thought I would get a NMORS logo contest started with a $50 prize to the winner. Here are the guidelines: The winner will retain the copyright to the logo with the understanding (perhaps even in writing) that the acting NMORS director is allowed to freely use the image and its derivative electronic forms (i.e. GIF, JPEG) for any NMORS materials, including, but not limited to, web pages, hardcopy, banners, buttons, jerseys, and so forth. In return for free use of the winning NMORS logo, the acting NMORS director will in perpetuity, agree never to use it to brand any porn, religious, or political materials, no matter how relevent they may seem to the NMORS. The logo should include a small, but readable copyright statement like "(c) Just Some Designer", and use the "NMORS" acronym and acronym expansion "New Mexico Off-Road Series." Ideally the logo should consist of only this text (however fancy) or this text on some sort of stylized landscape that expresses a sense of off-road and/or mountain biking. A rather extreme example might be the logo at http://www.mmba.org (minus all that animation jazz). It is up to the designer to include the year or not. Designs that include the year should provide clear, concise instructions on how to change the year value in case the winning designer gets run down by a rampaging horde of tumbleweeds or moves away, leaving the acting NMORS director to make the changes. The logo should ideally be provided for use on computers in a line or object format (i.e. Adobe Illustrator, FIG, EPS) that can be scaled to arbitrary size. Non-Macintosh formats preferred, not from any anti-Mac prejudice, but simply due to much larger numbers of non-Mac's in use. If the winning logo is found to be plagiarized, the perpetrator and family will be shunned unto the seventh generation and possibly slapped with some legal action. At the very least, they will be thrashed with the burning whip of bike-racers scorn. Myself, in collusion with a small handful of other racers who enjoy wielding autocratic power, will select the top five entries based on purely arbitrary judgements like how much beer we happen to have at the moment and whether the designs match the wallpaper. The five final entries will then be posted on the web for a vote to select the winner. BTW, can someone please forward this to Phil Simpson? I can't remember where I put his email address and I can't tell if he is on one of these lists. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 5 13:36:47 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:44 2005 Subject: NMORS logo contest In-Reply-To: <200101051911.MAA15357@crl.nmsu.edu> References: <200101051911.MAA15357@crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <14934.12383.481373.247194@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Using a remarkably creative combination of 4-letter words, someone kindly pointed out I did not include a submission date for the NMORS logo contest. How about 5pm MST, 28 February 2001? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 5 16:14:31 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:44 2005 Subject: Tentative NMORS 2001 schedule Message-ID: <14934.21847.97016.205601@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/nmors2001/ The tentative schedule I would like to see for the 2001 New Mexico MTB race series is up. Some of these races have not been confirmed yet, so I can almost guarantee changes. All together now: THIS IS NOT THE FINAL SCHEDULE. IT WILL CHANGE. Something new this season is NMORS rules. At the top of the page are links to the HTML and PDF versions of the rules. Please look them over and forward comments, corrections, and suggestions to me until March 26, 2001. Just to warn some of you now: the Signal Peak race is intended to be the same distance this year as it was last year. This means approximately 50 miles for Pro/Expert and approximately 38 for Sport. You know you want to do this one again and again. Also in the same spirit, you will notice I am trying to get the Quebradas 100K added on. No guarantees, but I really hope we can get this one on the list. There are no serious conflicts with the ACA sanctioned road races in New Mexico this year unless you are a TT fan. So we may not have too many conflicts with the New Mexico Road Series, allowing the really, really motivated among us to compete in both the road and off-road series. When things are a bit more settled, the URL published in BIKE magazine will become active - http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html. Again, comments, suggestions, and corrections requested between now and March 26, 2001. BTW, hopefully I will have packets for promoters ready by next week. Send me postal addresses if you want one or addresses for those promoters you know about that might not be on this list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From pizingo at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 6 11:21:30 2001 From: pizingo at worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:44 2005 Subject: Fw: DOT Secretary Appointment May Lead to Continued Progress for Cyclists Message-ID: <00c901c0780d$80c9f140$d1024a0c@oemcomputer> For those of you not on the Mesilla Valley Bicycle Coalition mail list, or those not members of the League of American Bicyclists, I am forwarding this message originally forwarded by Trina Witter of the MVBC. ----- Original Message ----- From: League of American Bicyclists To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: DOT Secretary Appointment May Lead to Continued Progress for Cyclists > January 5, 2001 > For Immediate Release > Contact: Patrick J. McCormick > Communications Director > Phone: 202/822-1333 > E-mail: patrick@bikeleague.org > > Continued Progress for Cyclists Seen as President-elect Bush Selects > Norman Mineta to be Secretary of Transportation > > The naming by President-elect George W. Bush of Norman Y. Mineta to > become transportation secretary may mean continued support from the > federal government for bicycling and for the needs of cyclists. Mineta, > the only Democrat named to a cabinet post, is a former Congressman and a > Japanese-American who was placed in an internment camp as a child during > World War II. He will succeed Secretary of Transportation Rodney E. > Slater under whose administration bicycling benefited. > > Paul Weiss, the League's Director of Government Relations, said, "We're > hopeful that Norm Mineta's extensive background in sustainable > transportation policy will be helpful to bicycling interests as he > assumes his role as Secretary of Transportation. Mr. Mineta was a key > player in the development and passage of ISTEA, which opened the door to > many opportunities for cycling at the federal level. Mr. Mineta's strong > relationship with cyclists' champion on Capitol Hill Congressman > Oberstar will be very useful." > > Mineta represented the Silicon Valley area in Northern California for 21 > years in the House. The historic ISTEA legislation was passed in 1991 > during his tenure on the House Public Works and Transportation > Committee. Mineta lead efforts to build high-tech transportation systems > and was briefly chairman of the Committee in 1993. He lost this title > after Republicans won control of the House in 1994. Mineta resigned his > seat in 1995 to join defense contractor Lockheed Martin as senior vice > president of its transportation systems and services division that > builds and operates electronic toll collection systems. > > U.S. Representative James Oberstar, D-Minnesota, the ranking member of > the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and the leading > proponent of cycling in Congress, is "obviously delighted" at Mineta's > naming, according to Bill Richard, chief of staff to the Congressman. > Representative Oberstar and Mr. Mineta were both elected to the House in > 1974 (as part of the "Watergate class") and have been close friends and > colleagues, regularly consulting and confiding in each other, for 26 > years. > > The League of American Bicyclists promotes bicycling for fun, fitness > and transportation, and works through advocacy and education for a > bicycle-friendly America. The League represents the interests of the > nation's 42.4 million bicyclists. With a current membership of 300,000 > affiliated cyclists, including 40,000 individuals and 600 organizations, > the League works to bring better bicycling to your community. > > From Marshall_Hill at email.msn.com Sun Jan 7 10:13:58 2001 From: Marshall_Hill at email.msn.com (Marshall_Hill) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:45 2005 Subject: Where's Marshall? Message-ID: There is an old saying that states the only constant in the universe is change. Well, that universe of change has swallowed up me, and my family, with a vengeance. Recent events concerning the relocation of my wife's place of employment forced us, and me, to evaluate our employment status. I decided to explore employment possibilities on a nationwide basis. The result of this search was a job offer in Houston, which I have accepted. As luck would have it, Charlotte?s company found her a position in Houston within 3 days of me accepting a job there! We could not have asked for a better resolution to what started out as pretty grim prospects! The ?Bitter? to this ?Sweet? is that we will have to leave you, our friends, and this wondrous geography we live in. As a native El Pasoan, and bona fide desert rat, I have always found an abundance of trees and the resulting green stuff a bit disconcerting and claustrophobic. I much prefer the 100-mile vistas, the mountains and the vegetation of the desert we live in. And you my friends, have been the best bunch of people we have ever had the honor of associating with and serving. We will miss you dearly! My last day in El Paso will probably be January 19th. Charlotte's family will still be here in El Paso, so I expect to see all of you and ride in the El Paso area from time to time. Thanks for your help and support. Your Friend, Marshall From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Sun Jan 7 10:45:34 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:45 2005 Subject: Transition Message-ID: <14936.43838.435752.194557@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Folks, since I can't make it to the Wednesday meeting, here is some input: 1. I don't mind doing the newsletter stuff if that gets dumped off on me. 2. My vote for transition team is to give financial and administrative control over to Dennis Mabry. 3. I feel that the top 2 BMBA spots should be El Paso people because the majority of activity and members happens there. 4. Please don't anyone nominate me for Pres or Vice-Pres -- I wouldn't have time over the coming year to do it! I'm already over-burdened with obligations and racing until November 2001. Let me know what happens, and I can visit El Paso this coming Thursday or the following Monday if stuff needs to be transfered. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Sun Jan 7 11:01:38 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:45 2005 Subject: January newsletter on-line Message-ID: <14936.44802.408021.27671@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The PDF version of the January newsletter is now on-line toward the bottom of http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb.html. I have now officially given up on trying to get usable HTML out of MS Word 2000 and will only be posting the PDF versions of the newsletters from now on. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From lbarraga at elp.rr.com Sun Jan 7 13:51:49 2001 From: lbarraga at elp.rr.com (Louis Barragan) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:45 2005 Subject: Where's Marshall? References: <200101071716.KAA29556@crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <000901c078eb$a87ebde0$62bb1c18@elp.rr.com> Marshall, will you still make the meeting on Weds.? I hope so... If not.......Happy trails to you, until we meet again.... Su Amigo, Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of BMBA Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Where's Marshall? > There is an old saying that states the only constant in the universe is > change. Well, that universe of change has swallowed up me, and my family, > with a vengeance. Recent events concerning the relocation of my wife's > place of employment forced us, and me, to evaluate our employment status. I > decided to explore employment possibilities on a nationwide basis. The > result of this search was a job offer in Houston, which I have accepted. As > luck would have it, Charlotte's company found her a position in Houston > within 3 days of me accepting a job there! We could not have asked for a > better resolution to what started out as pretty grim prospects! > > The "Bitter" to this "Sweet" is that we will have to leave you, our > friends, and this wondrous geography we live in. As a native El Pasoan, and > bona fide desert rat, I have always found an abundance of trees and the > resulting green stuff a bit disconcerting and claustrophobic. I much prefer > the 100-mile vistas, the mountains and the vegetation of the desert we live > in. And you my friends, have been the best bunch of people we have ever had > the honor of associating with and serving. We will miss you dearly! > > My last day in El Paso will probably be January 19th. Charlotte's family > will still be here in El Paso, so I expect to see all of you and ride in the > El Paso area from time to time. Thanks for your help and support. > > Your Friend, > Marshall > > > From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Mon Jan 8 14:58:28 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:45 2005 Subject: Meeting reminders Message-ID: <14938.14340.632393.361468@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Just a reminder of two meetings on Wednesday, January 10: A preliminary meeting to discuss the possible creation of an IMBA club in Las Cruces to be held at 6:30pm at Outdoor Adventures in Las Cruces. The BMBA meeting will be at 7pm in El Paso at Grigg's Resturant. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From RedondoRcd at aol.com Mon Jan 8 17:23:11 2001 From: RedondoRcd at aol.com (RedondoRcd@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:46 2005 Subject: Funny Cartoon Message-ID: There is a funny bike cartoon dated January 8 at: http://www.ucomics.com/closetohome/viewcl.htm http://www.ucomics.com/closetohome/viewcl.htm Peace David H. From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Wed Jan 10 15:39:50 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:46 2005 Subject: NMORS Final is set and other stuff Message-ID: <14940.58550.539299.520812@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The Road Apple Rally date is set and they have agreed to be the NMORS Final. I updated the web page with the new info: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/nmors2001/ Newsflash: Dan Bradshaw has handed over the Road Apply Rally reins to Shawn Lyle at the Parks&Rec department in Farmington. Other stuff ----------- No word on the Socorro races yet, but if the Quebradas 100km can not be added, we may add the Cerillos del Coyote instead. The date is set for the Badlands Battle race in Farmington. Information at the bottom of the web page above. The Chihuahuan Desert Challenge is about 1 month away. For those of you not doing that Arizona road thing, this is definitely a race you should try. Then you might consider some of the Arizona MTB races. A great way to prep for the New Mexico season! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Wed Jan 10 17:02:37 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:46 2005 Subject: NMORS 2001 Rules changes Message-ID: <14940.63517.147844.801623@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The 2001 Rules have changed a bit. A. The category names were changed to closer match NORBA names. Basically, we dumped the Senior II for Master and marked all age groups from 30 up as Master. This is just a cosmetic change. B. Beginning and Sport racers who win five top-five spots in one season will be required to move up to the next class. Please remember that until the final week of March, these rules are subject to change. So get your comments in before then. The PDF and HTML files have been updated. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/nmors2001/ will remain active through the 2001 season but the other URL will be the regularly published entry point. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From pizingo at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 10 22:51:05 2001 From: pizingo at worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:46 2005 Subject: Wanna go to a Sunday meetin'? Message-ID: <000f01c07b92$80adf660$2d034a0c@oemcomputer> Nope, I'm not talking about church, I'm talking about a meeting at the Ft. Bliss Rod & Gun Club this Sunday, Jan 14 at 1p. Why, you ask? Well, at tonight's BMBA meeting, we had a visit from Bob Summerall and Wendy Hoggard with the Women in the Outdoors program of the National Wild Turkey Federation. They will be hosting a Women in the Outdoors event at the rod & gun club on May 19 where a variety of outdoor activities can be sampled by women participants. The activities will include rock climbing, shooting sports, archery, outdoor cooking, camping, fly fishing, and of course mountain biking. Wendy and Bob asked the BMBA to teach three two-hour mountain biking tutorial sessions on this day to women who have probably not been on a bike in quite a while. At tonight's meeting there was agreement that the BMBA is happy to participate as asked. So, by attending the meeting this Sunday, we can determine the scope of what will be required of us for the May 19 event. Please let me know if you would like to attend the meeting with me. Also, everyone please keep in mind that we will need volunteers to coordinate our efforts, provide the tutorials as well as assist with keeping things organized during the day. Thanks for your time and have a nice rest of the week! _______________ Karen Peissinger h: 915-587-4347 m: 915-203-7394 pizingo@att.net kgp@sprintpcs.com From bsep at hotmail.com Thu Jan 11 07:59:29 2001 From: bsep at hotmail.com (Guillermo Sanders) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:47 2005 Subject: bike trainer Message-ID: howdy all...well the dane and i have not been out on the mountain lately b/c of a skiing accident that i had over the holidays. busted up my leg pretty bad and am just now starting rehab. well-i just found out my insurance doesn't cover physical therapy and at $110 an hour i am not about to open up my own wallet. i am wondering if anyone out there has one of those indoor trainers for your bike that you latch on to the back wheel of your bike so you can use it like a stationary bike. i would be willing to buy/rent/borrow for about a month or two if you've got one sitting in your garage from the last time you broke your leg. it would be much appreciated and we look forward to seeing you back out on the trails in a few months hopefully . happy new year...and happy trails to marshall, brent >From: pizingo@worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) >Reply-To: pizingo@worldnet.att.net >To: Multiple recipients of BMBA >Subject: Wanna go to a Sunday meetin'? >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:51:05 -0700 > >Nope, I'm not talking about church, I'm talking about a meeting at the Ft. >Bliss Rod & Gun Club this Sunday, Jan 14 at 1p. > >Why, you ask? Well, at tonight's BMBA meeting, we had a visit from Bob >Summerall and Wendy Hoggard with the Women in the Outdoors program of the >National Wild Turkey Federation. They will be hosting a Women in the >Outdoors event at the rod & gun club on May 19 where a variety of outdoor >activities can be sampled by women participants. The activities will >include rock climbing, shooting sports, archery, outdoor cooking, camping, >fly fishing, and of course mountain biking. Wendy and Bob asked the BMBA >to >teach three two-hour mountain biking tutorial sessions on this day to women >who have probably not been on a bike in quite a while. At tonight's >meeting >there was agreement that the BMBA is happy to participate as asked. So, by >attending the meeting this Sunday, we can determine the scope of what will >be required of us for the May 19 event. > >Please let me know if you would like to attend the meeting with me. Also, >everyone please keep in mind that we will need volunteers to coordinate our >efforts, provide the tutorials as well as assist with keeping things >organized during the day. > >Thanks for your time and have a nice rest of the week! >_______________ >Karen Peissinger >h: 915-587-4347 >m: 915-203-7394 >pizingo@att.net >kgp@sprintpcs.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 11 08:30:56 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:47 2005 Subject: bike trainer In-Reply-To: <200101111500.IAA15506@crl.nmsu.edu> References: <200101111500.IAA15506@crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <14941.53680.406997.201419@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Brent> howdy all...well the dane and i have not been out on the mountain Brent> lately b/c of a skiing accident that i had over the holidays. Brent> busted up my leg pretty bad and am just now starting rehab. Well, that will teach you to participate in dangerous sports! :-) Bummer. Maybe a series of tequila shots to go along with the PT might help. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 11 11:19:35 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:47 2005 Subject: NMORS 2001 update Message-ID: <14941.63799.663970.430602@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Thanks to Elizabeth and Marcos Alvarez, Dave Johnson, Susan Martinez, and Mitch Plummer in Socorro, it looks like we are on for the Quebradas 100K! If you ever wondered if you can do 62 miles, this non-technical 100K ride on dirt roads should certainly give you a chance to find out. Sport and Pro/Expert will be doing the whole distance, and we are working out details for Beginner racers. What we don't know yet is whether it will the 15th or 16th of September and who will be insuring the race (the Chamber, ACA, or NORBA). The web site has been updated accordingly. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 11 13:13:14 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:47 2005 Subject: NMORS suggestions Message-ID: <14942.5082.727959.530972@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> A couple of suggestions came in about adding categories for SS and Tandems. This sounds like a great idea for the Quebradas. We'll see if that is possible. I will mention this idea to the other NMORS promoters, but I wanted responses from the rest of the crowd so I can get a rough estimate on how many might do SS or Tandem in most of the NMORS events if these categories were available (Dave W and Mark G: you've already been counted). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From pizingo at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 12 07:26:15 2001 From: pizingo at worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:47 2005 Subject: Press Release: BMBA February 2001 General Meeting Message-ID: <006601c07ca3$a3d2f980$7c014a0c@oemcomputer> The Borderland Mountain Bike Association will meet at 7:00pm, Wednesday, February 7, 2000, at Grigg's Restaurant, 701 South Mesa Hills Drive in El Paso. Riders of all ages and skill levels are encouraged to attend. BMBA business is conducted during the first hour, which is followed by social time. The election of BMBA officers and committee chairs will take place at the February meeting. The elections are open to all BMBA members whose Year 2000 membership is current. Also, a spring mountain bike festival is in the initial planning stage and volunteers are welcome to assist with the event. The BMBA serves Texas, New Mexico, and Chihuahua, Mexico by organizing rides and beginner tutorials, advocating for mountain biking, and building and maintaining mountain bike trails. Additionally, the BMBA has worked with the Franklin Mountains State Park to establish mountain bike trails within the park, and has sponsored trail maintenance days on regional trails. For additional information, please contact Karen Peissinger, BMBA Publicist at 915-587-4347 (kgp@sprintpcs.com) or Robert Barrio, Membership Chair, at 915-577-9666. Information on the BMBA can be found at http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb.html#bmba. ________________ Karen Peissinger Publicist, BMBA h: 915-587-4347 m: 915-203-7394 (please do not publish mobile number) kgp@sprintpcs.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 12 09:55:50 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:48 2005 Subject: Sierra Vista ride Monday Message-ID: <14943.14102.859059.474426@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> We are doing a complete Sierra Vista trail ride (20+ miles roundtrip) Monday, 15 January (MLK Day). Meet at Milagro's at 9:30am or at the Cruces side trailhead at 10:00am. You will need plenty of water. Food of some sort is recommended as well. The ride notice will be on my site and written directions to the trailhead are on the "Area Trails" page http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb.html. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 12 09:59:46 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:48 2005 Subject: Bike for sale Message-ID: <14943.14338.277451.570663@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> This came across another list. Normally I don't post for-sale notices from the other lists, but this one is a dang good deal. 2000 Jamis Exile Size 17" (has a fairly long TT of 23") Reynolds double butted steel hardtail frame Brushed and clearcoat finish (looks like stainless steel) with red accessories and stickers Titec Bar, Stem, Post, Saddle Deore components Manitou Magnum fork Bike is new save for being demo'd a few times - Features upgraded wheels ($400 Ritchey OCR Pros) upgraded cassette (XT) and upgraded Tires (Ritchey ZED Race Pro kevlar). MSRP is $680 - before the upgrades, I'm selling for $500. As I said it is all but brand new. Probably not the level of bike that most listers would be interested in, but would make a great spare, or a rig for a serious beginner. Thanks, Jed jed396@aol.com 650-363-1566 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 12 11:05:14 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:48 2005 Subject: Las Cruces IMBA club and other news Message-ID: <200101121805.LAA07210@helion.NMSU.Edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 964 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://crl.nmsu.edu/pipermail/bmba/attachments/20010112/393b0ecc/attachment.ksh From pizingo at worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 12 23:53:03 2001 From: pizingo at worldnet.att.net (Karen Peissinger) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:49 2005 Subject: Fw: {FMWC} Next Meeting, 17 Jan Message-ID: <001901c07d2d$7d59a080$cd024a0c@oemcomputer> Hey all, Would someone pretty please volunteer to represent the BMBA at the annual FMWC mtg? There's a BMBA exec comm mtg Wed that I must attend that conflicts with the FMWC mtg. The BMBA is a member of the FMWC so we should definitely have representation at the Ann Mtg. Drop me a line or give me a ring if you can do this. Thanks a bunch!! _______________ Karen Peissinger h: 915-587-4347 m: 915-203-7394 kgp@sprintpcs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: John A Sproul To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: {FMWC} Next Meeting, 17 Jan > > > > The Franklin Mountains Wilderness Coalition meets the 3rd Wednesday > of every other month. Our next meeting takes place January 17 at > 7 p.m. in Room 411 Burges Hall on the UTEP campus. Burges Hall is > at the intersection of Sun Bowl Dr. and University Ave., on the > west side of campus. This meeting is our Annual Meeting. Please > plan to attend. We'll elect at-large directors, review events of > 2000 and set priorities for 2001. Information: John Sproul (545- > 5157). > > > AGENDA > > ANNUAL MEETING > > I. Election of 3 at-large board members > > II. Treasurer's annual report > > III. President's annual report > > IV. 2001 priorities > > > > BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING > (Immediately following Annual Meeting) > > I. Administrative > A. Minutes of last meeting > B. Audit of financial records > C. Election of 2001 officers > D. 2001 committee chairs > E. Proposed FMWC web site > > II. Franklin Mountains State Park Support > A. Texas Legislature > > III. Land Use > A. El Paso Mountain Committee > > IV. Castner Range > A. Slide presentation/video > B. Border Patrol land request > C. Ft. Bliss Restoration Advisory Board, 17 Jan meeting > > V. Franklin Mountains State Park Operations > > -- > John Sproul > El Paso, Texas > ae494@rgfn.epcc.edu > From gilbikerider at hotmail.com Mon Jan 15 23:41:23 2001 From: gilbikerider at hotmail.com (Gilberto Moreno) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:49 2005 Subject: Fwd: [EPBC] Fwd: First Bad Bike Bill Message-ID: >From: DougM >Reply-To: EPBC@egroups.com >To: EPBC@egroups.com >CC: Patricia & Raymond Sweisford >Subject: [EPBC] Fwd: First Bad Bike Bill >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:25:06 -0700 > > >>Today, Senator Wentworth filed Senate Bill 238 which would require a "slow >>vehicle" triangle on all cyclists and would ban cyclists in groups of >>three or more from farm-to-market and ranch-to-market roads without >>improved shoulders. >> >>If passed, this bill would effectively eliminate the rides we all enjoy >>and which contribute a substantial amount of money to charities across the >>state. >> >>We ask that you take the time to send us your suggestions and we will put >>together a comprehensive approach to this bill. The economic impact is >>pretty amazing and we are working to define it. >> >>Please, if you feel you must contact Senator Wentworth, be reasonable, >>rational and realistic. >> >>For text of the bill go to >> >>www.biketexas.org/bills.html >> >>Thanks for your support of TBC >> >>Preston _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 16 08:33:03 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:49 2005 Subject: Tracking cyclists Message-ID: <14948.27055.679989.745885@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The following was forwarded from a discussion on the mailing list for the Ecological Society of America (thanks Ed F.). The topic became how to monitor mountain bikers and this message came across. Thought you might enjoy it. From: Bleil, David Subject: RE: Monitoring human traffic/effects This problem of monitoring people on bikes (bicycles) has been addressed by the US Army because that was a principal means of movement by the Viet Cong. The most effective was a tiny box fitted with a microphone very sensitive to ultrasonic frequencies. Inside the box was a blood sucking insect like a bed bug which was able to detect people at a distance. These were placed along trails used by the VC. When they came by on their bikes the insects would screech and jump at the walls of the box in the direction of the humans. The microphones would trigger an alert on a radio frequency which could then be monitored at a remote location from which artillery or air strikes could be called. The entire monitoring network could be adapted to civilian use by eliminating the ordnance which would also reduce the expense. So the question is not can it be done but how much does he want to spend. A much cheaper alternative might be posting warning signs "Danger Unexploded Ordnance" or "Danger! Genetic modifications occurring here" Burying a 22 cartridge on the site would make the first sign truthful and the normal reproductive tendencies of the local fauna makes the second one truthful. Human ignorance and paranoia should be sufficient to keep out 98% of the troublesome tresspassers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From dmac49 at idsi.net Mon Jan 15 23:08:51 2001 From: dmac49 at idsi.net (D.Mac) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:49 2005 Subject: Tracking cyclists References: <14948.27055.679989.745885@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <3A63E573.550E8883@idsi.net> Really didn't work well over there (I was there) The people who thought of that one should have applied that effort to the nations trails etc. Some people just have to much time on their hands. Better to spend it biking. Dan Mark Leisher wrote: > The following was forwarded from a discussion on the mailing list for the > Ecological Society of America (thanks Ed F.). The topic became how to monitor > mountain bikers and this message came across. Thought you might enjoy it. > > From: Bleil, David > Subject: RE: Monitoring human traffic/effects > > This problem of monitoring people on bikes (bicycles) has been addressed by > the US Army because that was a principal means of movement by the Viet Cong. > The most effective was a tiny box fitted with a microphone very sensitive to > ultrasonic frequencies. Inside the box was a blood sucking insect like a > bed bug which was able to detect people at a distance. These were placed > along trails used by the VC. When they came by on their bikes the insects > would screech and jump at the walls of the box in the direction of the > humans. The microphones would trigger an alert on a radio frequency which > could then be monitored at a remote location from which artillery or air > strikes could be called. The entire monitoring network could be adapted to > civilian use by eliminating the ordnance which would also reduce the > expense. So the question is not can it be done but how much does he want to > spend. > > A much cheaper alternative might be posting warning signs "Danger Unexploded > Ordnance" or "Danger! Genetic modifications occurring here" Burying a 22 > cartridge on the site would make the first sign truthful and the normal > reproductive tendencies of the local fauna makes the second one truthful. > Human ignorance and paranoia should be sufficient to keep out 98% of the > troublesome tresspassers. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark Leisher > Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a > New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without > Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. > Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 16 10:51:47 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:50 2005 Subject: NMORS Rules update Message-ID: <14948.35379.95739.631250@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The NMORS HTML and PDF rules have been updated a bit. In short: A. For moving up a class, top-five of five wins don't count if there are less than six competitors in the class and category. This is to avoid unfairly forcing racers to upgrade who compete in class and categories that generally only have 2-5 competitors. B. Any racer forced to move up a class because of five top-five wins only needs to complete one race in the new class to be eligible for a series championship in the new class. This is so racers don't have to start over on their minimum 3 (or 2) eligibility races if they are forced to move up a class. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html BTW, the High Altitude race in Cloudcroft is settled and on the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 16 15:50:50 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:50 2005 Subject: Klein dealer in El Paso? Message-ID: <14948.53322.386781.79893@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Is there a Klein dealer in El Paso that has any Adept's in stock to try out? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 16 16:05:50 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:50 2005 Subject: Excellent picture Message-ID: <14948.54222.239075.438932@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> An excellent Vladimir Chaloupka picture of Angela Koppa riding in the Dona Ana's was on the front page of the Las Cruces Sun-News yesterday. Maybe we can get permission to scan and post it here. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Wed Jan 17 11:09:13 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:50 2005 Subject: NMORS 2001 rules update Message-ID: <14949.57289.490097.435731@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Hopefully, one of the last rule updates for the 2001 season. As a reminder, the rules will go from tentative to active Friday, March 23, 2001. The PDF and HTML versions of the rules have been updated and the links fixed to avoid further access problems. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html The rule change is significant. Racers being moved up a class due to 5 top-five wins will start in the new class with *no* points instead of half of their points from the previous class. The racer's standing in the previous class will be maintained. Like last season, this means some racers can win their categories in two classes, all in a single season! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 18 08:38:23 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:50 2005 Subject: Another bike for sale Message-ID: <14951.3567.77403.127708@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Folks, another excellent deal came across the bike-racers list. From: ALEX ANDEL Subject: [NMCycling] mtb frame/fork for sale Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:19:04 -0700 1999 19" Trek Alpha SL MTB Frame with 1999 Manitou SX fork. $325 obo. Nice blue with red and white graphics. Well cared for with a few scratches, but overall nice condition. No mud or nasty conditions here in the desert, so the finish is good and the fork is clean inside and out. The SX fork is listed at 80mm travel, very adjustable, smooth and nice looking. It is red. Very good condition. I'd take $325 for the both of them, hand delivered to your Albuquerque home, or shipped right away to your location. See a pic of the bike in action at : http://team.ihighway.net/alex1.jpg Those aren't scratches near the bottom bracket, they are glare. I can send different pics if you wish. Thanks. Reply to alex_andel@hotmail.com so I can reply sooner. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From gilbikerider at hotmail.com Thu Jan 18 16:09:32 2001 From: gilbikerider at hotmail.com (Gilberto Moreno) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:51 2005 Subject: Another bike for sale Message-ID: Ahhhhh memories!!!...interestingly enough, it was the very same spot where the photo of this bike was taken that in 1995 I was called all sorts of mean names by race spectators for shoving a guy off the racecourse. I had been yelling "track!!!" for a while and the other guy was obviously hogging the trail to keep me from getting in front of him. Some of the spectators wanted me disqualified. I was too sore, dehidrated, too excited, too joyful to have run such a great race so it was really hard for me to care what anybody wanted. My very first "big" race on my brand new 1995 purple Bridgestone. Ya man, too much fun for an old man. Lajitas is coming up again very soon. I can't wait! Peace...GIL PS: This photo HAS to have been taken right close to the finish line at Lajitas, right? >From: mleisher@crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) >Reply-To: mleisher@crl.nmsu.edu >To: Multiple recipients of BMBA >Subject: Another bike for sale >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:38:23 -0700 (MST) > >Folks, another excellent deal came across the bike-racers list. > > From: ALEX ANDEL > Subject: [NMCycling] mtb frame/fork for sale > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:19:04 -0700 > > 1999 19" Trek Alpha SL MTB Frame with 1999 Manitou SX fork. $325 obo. > > Nice blue with red and white graphics. Well cared for with a few >scratches, > but overall nice condition. No mud or nasty conditions here in the >desert, > so the finish is good and the fork is clean inside and out. > > The SX fork is listed at 80mm travel, very adjustable, smooth and nice > looking. It is red. Very good condition. > > I'd take $325 for the both of them, hand delivered to your Albuquerque >home, > or shipped right away to your location. > > See a pic of the bike in action at : http://team.ihighway.net/alex1.jpg > Those aren't scratches near the bottom bracket, they are glare. I can >send > different pics if you wish. > > Thanks. Reply to alex_andel@hotmail.com so I can reply sooner. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mark Leisher >Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are >a >New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look >without >Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. >Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 18 11:25:09 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:51 2005 Subject: Parts and tools Message-ID: <14951.13573.353608.212190@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The Third Hand, a bike parts and tools company, is going out of business at the end of March. They are having a 10% off sale to reduce their inventory. Lots of little parts you could never find anywhere else can be found here. http://www.thethirdhand.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From steve at mackichan.com Thu Jan 18 13:58:44 2001 From: steve at mackichan.com (Steve Swanson) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:51 2005 Subject: Sierra Vista trail work In-Reply-To: <200009290321.VAA15491@crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <11D18B868ED8D111AA1800A0246B6E9F235AC1@IS~PUKORO> I'll be out building new trail on the Sierra Vista trail Saturday Jan. 20. Mark will get the BLM tools for me, but he'll be out of town so we won't have the BLM truck. The trail has been re-tagged, so we can expect to make lots of progress. I'll be at Milagro's Coffee at 9am for carpooling and at the Vado exit at 9:30am to meet everyone else. I'll drive a red Escort wagon and will try to be in a conspicuous place on the east side of the exit. Mark says that if you just take the Vado road east to the power lines, then go north, you can't miss the trail. I usually work until 12 or 1. Please send me a note if you plan to join me. I can also be reached at my cell phone at (505) 642-3651. Steve Swanson steve@mackichan.com MacKichan Software, Inc. http://www.mackichan.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 18 14:23:00 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:51 2005 Subject: Las Cruces IMBA Club Meeting Minutes January 10, 2001 In-Reply-To: <11D18B868ED8D111AA1800A0246B6E9F235AC2@IS~PUKORO> References: <11D18B868ED8D111AA1800A0246B6E9F29C35A@IS~PUKORO> <11D18B868ED8D111AA1800A0246B6E9F235AC2@IS~PUKORO> Message-ID: <14951.24244.44586.734785@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Steve> I'll be at Milagro's Coffee at 9am for carpooling and at the Vado Steve> exit at 9:30am to meet everyone else. I'll drive a red Escort Steve> wagon and will try to be in a conspicuous place on the east side of Steve> the exit. Mark says that if you just take the Vado road east to Steve> the power lines, then go north, you can't miss the trail. I Steve> usually work until 12 or 1. A minor info adjustment: if you drive out the Vado road (paved), a short way before "The Lord's Ranch" you will see the lime-green flags marking the trail. Or you can drive through Vado onto the power line road (hard to miss), park to the east of the grassy area and hike across the grassy area until you run into the lime-green or pink flags marking the trail on both sides of the grassy area. You should be able to take normal vehicles up the power line road if you drive carefully. Steve will have some extra BLM tools with him. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make this trail work day, so have fun! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 18 14:44:22 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:51 2005 Subject: Update on Sierra Vista trail Message-ID: <14951.25526.580120.543319@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Sierra Vista trail news is coming in thick and fast. Here are the highlights: o We have asked BLM to put a bike opening in the fence at the 3.5 mile mark south of Las Cruces so we don't have to open and close that gate all the time. o We only have 2-3 miles left before Vado. Part of the trail south of Vado is flagged, and we are discussing the possibility of running a single track next to the powerline road down to 404 instead of using the road itself as originally planned. o Thanks to Mark Hakkila of BLM for pointing this out, we have a rideable culvert under 404 (between mile markers 3 and 4) we can use once we get the BLM and the NM State Highway Dept. to do their thing on both sides. o Franklin Mountain State Park and Paso Del Norte Mountain Bike Patrol have already flagged the trail up to the Anthony Mine road, and are discussing flagging down to the culvert. Work on the trail from the State Park north to 404 will probably begin fairly soon. o A meeting is being scheduled between BLM (Oz Gomez), NM SHD (Paul Little or Frank Guzman), Franklin Mtn State Park (Ray Sierra), BMBA (me), and an as yet unchosen rep from the Cruces IMBA club to discuss getting clearance from BLM and SHD gates of some kind put on either side of the culvert. Keep an eye on either of the web sites below for upcoming Sierra Vista trail work days: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb.html http://www.zianet.com/bikefam/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From pizingo at att.net Thu Jan 18 20:06:56 2001 From: pizingo at att.net (pizingo@att.net) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:52 2005 Subject: Sierra Vista trail work Message-ID: <20010119030656.YXLT485.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 1227 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://crl.nmsu.edu/pipermail/bmba/attachments/20010119/b6a7c983/attachment.ksh From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 19 10:32:03 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:52 2005 Subject: NMORS Schedule update Message-ID: <14952.31251.839095.428993@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Folks, I just learned that Angel Fire was scheduled the same weekend as the State Championship (Cedro Circus) way back in October. NORBA couldn't change the Chile Challenge date this late in the game, so it is off the NMORS list for 2001. It will be back on in 2002. I have to apologize for this because if I had followed up in November as originally planned, I could have brought it up at the ACA scheduling meeting. The Chile Challenge is now in the "Other Events" table on my events page. They will be holding XC, DH, and DS this year. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 19 10:40:58 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:52 2005 Subject: Look for volunteer bicycle community representative Message-ID: <14952.31786.161019.5316@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The BFAC (Bicycle Facilities Advisory Committee) to the Las Cruces MPO (Metro Planning Organization) of the City Council is looking for a representative for the general bicycle community of Las Cruces. You must be able to attend 1-2 hour meetings every two months (occasionally an additional work session as well). Please send me your name and phone number if you are interested in getting in on the action :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From bikefam at zianet.com Fri Jan 19 14:37:39 2001 From: bikefam at zianet.com (Shane Cunico) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:52 2005 Subject: Group Ride Sat. Message-ID: <3A68B3A3.6E19A778@zianet.com> Hello, I am setting up a group ride on Sat. at around am. We usually meet at CJ's. If you are interested please call me at 523-0837. Lola Cunico From ERDOC12 at aol.com Fri Jan 19 18:13:10 2001 From: ERDOC12 at aol.com (ERDOC12@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:53 2005 Subject: Group Ride Sat. Message-ID: <96.eede0d2.279a4026@aol.com> Re: the Sat group ride, I'm assuming this is a Mountain Bike ride? Also, the time of the ride didn't come across the e-mail, and what and where is "CJ's" for those of us not familiar with it. Is this in Las Cruces? Thanks, Dr. Doom From bikefam at zianet.com Fri Jan 19 20:37:23 2001 From: bikefam at zianet.com (Shane Cunico) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:53 2005 Subject: Group Ride Sat. References: <200101200114.SAA03493@crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: <3A6907F3.2E236EDD@zianet.com> Hello, is there anything but mountain biking. I guess I figured you all were mtn bikers because the BMBA. I'm sorry I didn't mention that CJ's is in Las Cruces, but if you are interested call me 523-0837 or check out our web site at www.zianet.com/bikefam for a map to CJ (see trails). The time of the ride is 0900 at the parking lot noted on the map and directions. Adios Lola Dennis Mabry wrote: > Re: the Sat group ride, I'm assuming this is a Mountain Bike ride? Also, the > time of the ride didn't come across the e-mail, and what and where is "CJ's" > for those of us not familiar with it. Is this in Las Cruces? > Thanks, > Dr. Doom From Javatandem at aol.com Fri Jan 19 22:25:26 2001 From: Javatandem at aol.com (Javatandem@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:53 2005 Subject: Group Ride Sat. Message-ID: Well, yes there is lets see I have a road bike, Time trial bike, Track bike, cycle cross bike, and a Mt. bike. Oh and I have a road and MTB tandem sooooooo....... lets not start with the road vs. MTB thing have fun on two wheels Dave In a message dated 01/19/2001 8:31:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, bikefam@zianet.com writes: > Hello, is there anything but mountain biking. From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Mon Jan 22 13:58:05 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:53 2005 Subject: Sierra Vista trail work Message-ID: <14956.40669.786627.532675@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> I'd like to thank Steve Swanson, Mark Dorion, and Robert Newman for putting in so many hours on the trail this weekend! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Mon Jan 22 16:12:47 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:53 2005 Subject: NMSU Spring Intramural MTB race Message-ID: <14956.48751.551798.584171@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The NMSU Spring Intramural MTB race has been set for Saturday, February 17. More info is available in the "Other MTB Events" section of: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 23 08:18:57 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:54 2005 Subject: Mtn bikes win Message-ID: <14957.41185.811158.219016@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> For those of you who haven't heard yet, under weight of public opinion, BLM has agreed to change vehicle grouping in their proposed Off-Highway management plan. http://www.imba.com/news/news_releases/01_01/01_19_blm_victory.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From bsep at hotmail.com Tue Jan 23 10:48:22 2001 From: bsep at hotmail.com (Guillermo Sanders) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:54 2005 Subject: Mtn bikes win Message-ID: i think that's great- it shows that in numbers we can accomplish a lot. keep on, crip >From: mleisher@crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) >Reply-To: mleisher@crl.nmsu.edu >To: Multiple recipients of BMBA >Subject: Mtn bikes win >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:18:57 -0700 (MST) > >For those of you who haven't heard yet, under weight of public opinion, BLM >has agreed to change vehicle grouping in their proposed Off-Highway >management >plan. > > http://www.imba.com/news/news_releases/01_01/01_19_blm_victory.html >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mark Leisher >Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are >a >New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look >without >Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. >Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 23 10:58:47 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:54 2005 Subject: The Right Fit Message-ID: <14957.50775.332284.660925@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> I finally got my racing bike back in working order for a race in Arizona this past weekend. A shiny new paint job and all new components makes the bike look ubelievably clean. But the biggest surprise was the fit. For two years I made minor adjustments until I reached what I thought was a comfort zone. Now I know how far from comfortable it was. The new fork with longer steerer tube and low-rise handlebars really made a startling difference. This was all a fortuitous accident, too. It is hard to describe what a perfect fit feels like, but riding it in the race felt like I was home again. Climbing really steep stuff used to be a problem because of poor weight distribution that kept the front end too light and loss of traction when compensating for this. Cranking up the climby bits now feels much more natural. Before, I had to lean forward in corners at most speeds to keep the front tire from washing out. I still have to lean forward a bit at high speeds, but nowhere near as much. All this and the component upgrade dropped close to 2 pounds off the bike as well! I just doesn't get much better than that. BTW, I didn't do all that great in the race (27th of 36). My latest excuse is I was distracted by a really fun course and a brilliantly handling bike :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From spatton at pcisys.net Tue Jan 23 11:02:50 2001 From: spatton at pcisys.net (Scott Patton) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:54 2005 Subject: The Right Fit In-Reply-To: <14957.50775.332284.660925@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Mark Leisher wrote: > BTW, I didn't do all that great in the race (27th of 36). My latest excuse is > I was distracted by a really fun course and a brilliantly handling bike :-) I have found that I know a bike fits when I dont think about it! There is a certain zone that I get with my bikes when I can make them do whatever I want and they dont ask me questions! At 55+ mph, I dont have time to do a lot of explaining ;-) A good fitting bike is a dream that doesnt always come true, but when it does... WOWZA! Scott ------------- "Far better it is to dare mighty things, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those who neither enjoy much or suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." --Theodore Roosevelt From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 23 13:34:09 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:54 2005 Subject: Training days are here again Message-ID: <14957.60097.29247.470181@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Only three weeks until Lajitas for those of us going and I promised to let some of you know my training schedule between now and then. So here it is for the next couple of weeks. If any changes occur, but I'll send out a note. BTW, I promised training rides to some of you Beginners who will be doing the Coyote for the first time this year. I will send out a notice when I figure out a good time for these. meeting at culvert under I-25 on east side of Pan Am Center: 3:30pm, wed, jan 24 - intervals up Soledad Canyon road 3:30pm, thu, jan 25 - climb up A Mountain a bunch of times 3:30pm, fri, jan 26 - a bunch of A Mountain loops probably start from Milagro's about 8:00-8:30am 9:00am?, sat, jan 27 - either a 50+ miler out to Aguirre Springs and back or a ride from Milagro's to the Dona Ana's and back (including a spin around CJ's). meeting at culvert under I-25 on east side of Pan Am Center 3:30pm, wed, jan 31 - a bunch of A Mountain loops 3:30pm, thu, feb 1 - intervals up Soledad Canyon road 3:30pm, fri, feb 2 - climb up A Mountain a bunch of times probably start from Milagro's about 8:00-8:30am 9:00am?, sat, feb 3 - either a 50+ miler out to Aguirre Springs and back or a ride from Milagro's to the Dona Ana's and back (including a spin around CJ's). We'll most likely be on mountain bikes for all of these except possibly on road bikes for the Aguirre Springs ride. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From ERDOC12 at aol.com Tue Jan 23 14:13:09 2001 From: ERDOC12 at aol.com (ERDOC12@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:55 2005 Subject: Mountain Bikers Win !! Message-ID: <30.f8a8b10.279f4de5@aol.com> FANTASTIC NEWS for Mountain Bikers !!! Thanks for the info Mark. I hadn't heard the good news until today. Some of you BMBA members may remember that back in December, I e-mailed everyone in our club and alerted you about the pending "Bad Legislation" which would've grouped human-powered Mountain Bikes in the same land-use category as motorized all-terrain vehicles, SUVs, and motorcycles. This would've paved the way for the potential to severely limit our right to ride on much of our Public Lands (not all BLM property managers are as Mountain Biker friendly as our own local Mark H.)! Many of you responded with e-mails, phone calls, and letters to the U.S. BLM, objecting to this new proposed policy, helping to bolster the 12,000 IMBA (International Mountain Bike Association) generated responses from Mountain Bikers across the nation and thereby making our efforts successful! Thank you to those BMBA members for your efforts! This is a great example of what we can do together. Our local Mountain Bike Club is important and we can all be proud to be members. We can make a difference, and, for this reason, we should all work harder in the coming months to increase our BMBA's membership in order to be even more effective in the future. Also, I urge all Mountain Bikers in our area to step up and enthusiastically support Mark Leisher's present efforts to get a local chapter of IMBA started in Las Cruces. We should all join and support IMBA, as it was their nationwide campaign which was instrumental in reversing the BLM Plan. Thank you all once again, Dennis Mabry, Interim President, BMBA From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 23 14:46:22 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:55 2005 Subject: Mountain Bikers Win !! In-Reply-To: <30.f8a8b10.279f4de5@aol.com> References: <30.f8a8b10.279f4de5@aol.com> Message-ID: <14957.64430.398187.903939@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Dennis> Also, I urge all Mountain Bikers in our area to step up and Dennis> enthusiastically support Mark Leisher's present efforts to get a Dennis> local chapter of IMBA started in Las Cruces. We should all join Dennis> and support IMBA, as it was their nationwide campaign which was Dennis> instrumental in reversing the BLM Plan. Thank you all once again, Dennis> Dennis Mabry, Interim President, BMBA I just wanted to point out a couple things: 1) I'm not actually the one forming the Las Cruces IMBA club -- that would be Shane Cunico (who is on this list) and 2) BMBA is already one of IMBA's 400 registered clubs. The Cruces IMBA chapter will focus primarily on formalizing trail maintenance for Cruces area trails, where BMBA tends to do more than just trail maintenance. There is plenty of room for both. And like Dennis I want to thank all of you who took the time to write up and send in your comments on the BLM OHVMP! This may act as a precedent for future land management actions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From noll2 at juno.com Tue Jan 23 19:44:56 2001 From: noll2 at juno.com (noll2@juno.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:55 2005 Subject: The Right Fit Message-ID: <20010123.214457.-407903.0.noll2@juno.com> Your description of the poor cornering and climbing, makes me wonder why I see so many riser bars and high stems. I broke my bike when I was at Tai last fall and rented a soft tail from NOC. I think the frame was good but it was hard to tell with the high stem and cow horn bars, I could hardly ride it around a corner or up a hill. It really made me appreciate how well my K2 fits me. JN noll2@juno.com From brian at bikefreak.net Wed Jan 24 06:49:12 2001 From: brian at bikefreak.net (Brian Junkins) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:55 2005 Subject: The Right Fit References: <20010123.214457.-407903.0.noll2@juno.com> Message-ID: <001801c0860c$71b54ad0$ed02a00a@nhqadmin16> In defense of riser bars, I've been using them for two years now and I LOVE the bigger bar. Part of it may stem from my wide shoulders but I feel I have better control in technical sections and descents. Climbing hasn't been a problem either since I learned how to move my weight closer to the front of the bike. - B. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: Re: The Right Fit > Your description of the poor cornering and climbing, makes me wonder why > I see so many riser bars and high stems. > I broke my bike when I was at Tai last fall and rented a soft tail from > NOC. I think the frame was good but it was hard to tell with the high > stem and cow horn bars, I could hardly ride it around a corner or up a > hill. It really made me appreciate how well my K2 fits me. > JN > noll2@juno.com > From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Wed Jan 24 08:01:13 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:55 2005 Subject: The Right Fit In-Reply-To: <20010123.214457.-407903.0.noll2@juno.com> References: <20010123.214457.-407903.0.noll2@juno.com> Message-ID: <14958.60985.101289.175353@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> JN> Your description of the poor cornering and climbing, makes me wonder JN> why I see so many riser bars and high stems. I broke my bike when I JN> was at Tai last fall and rented a soft tail from NOC. I think the JN> frame was good but it was hard to tell with the high stem and cow horn JN> bars, I could hardly ride it around a corner or up a hill. It really JN> made me appreciate how well my K2 fits me. Actually it was a taller steerer tube and riser bars that helped. If it gets too tall, then cornering and climbing become contortionist acts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From noll2 at juno.com Wed Jan 24 17:32:52 2001 From: noll2 at juno.com (noll2@juno.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:56 2005 Subject: The Right Fit Message-ID: <20010124.193253.-329385.1.noll2@juno.com> I under stand the extra sweep that some of the riser bars have may be comfortable, but the height puts me to far back to climb. I do agree to each his own I have long arms and riser bars make me feel like I'm riding a beach cruiser in the sit up and beg position. I couldn't climb or corner with them. The ones I tried were also too wide to be comfortable. ( no I am not little, anything but ) I also would have a hard time on the woodsier trails getting them between trees. JN From epenning at nmsu.edu Wed Jan 24 21:39:31 2001 From: epenning at nmsu.edu (E. Pennington) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:56 2005 Subject: Mexico ride Message-ID: <001801c08688$cff6b4e0$54e27b80@Xenogenic> Is anyone interested in organizing a ride in Mexico? I'd like the opportunity to ride south of the border but I've heard that the trails can be difficult to find/follow. So I'm looking for someone who has been there before to lead a group ride. Erik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://crl.nmsu.edu/pipermail/bmba/attachments/20010124/d5551aea/attachment.html From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 25 08:01:20 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:56 2005 Subject: More stuff for sale Message-ID: <14960.16320.17788.911933@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> A couple more good deals off the bike-racers list. I have two items for sale: 1. A medium complete Once Giant with a brand-spankin new ultegra group (dura-ace r. der. and bb). Included wheelset is the new "crazy-style" shimano 105 (also brand new). Other parts include a stronglight hs, flite saddle, vp peddles, control tech stem, and panaracer tires. The only used portion of the bike are the frameset, stem, and seatpost. Asking $1000 obo. 2. A baby-blue aluminum Dean mt. bike (seatube: 19.5" center-collar, 17" center-center, 23" top tube center-center). Included is an XTR f der., and a control tech seatpost. Asking $350 obo. COuld also sell with additional parts if need be such as sid fork, chris king hs, easton stem/bar. Thank You. Doug Campbell dcampb@unm.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 25 08:10:33 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:56 2005 Subject: Newsletter time Message-ID: <14960.16873.320343.807804@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Another plea for newsletter submissions. Seems like nobody wants to be in print any more. But I know there are writers out there because they sure ain't in Hollywood! Get stuff to my by Feb 1 at the latest. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 25 09:04:46 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:57 2005 Subject: NMORS: Angel Fire and TorC race Message-ID: <14960.20126.793854.319056@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> Good news folks! Got a call from the Mountain States Cup director and Angel Fire is back on the NMORS schedule. June 8-10, with Dual-Slalom, Downhill, and Cross-Country events. Unfortunately this is the same weekend of the state RR and Crit championships. I'm not sure if there is any more room for moving the Angel Fire dates, but I will check. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html There is also a chance that an MTB race in TorC may be forming. It probably won't be an NMORS race this year, but if it is reasonably well attended, we'll add it on next year. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Thu Jan 25 11:28:21 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:57 2005 Subject: Angel Fire update Message-ID: <200101251828.LAA13999@helion.NMSU.Edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 646 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://crl.nmsu.edu/pipermail/bmba/attachments/20010125/9db198d8/attachment.ksh From kerryika at lmi.net Thu Jan 25 22:42:27 2001 From: kerryika at lmi.net (Kerry Drew) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:57 2005 Subject: The Right Fit Message-ID: Might I, instead, suggest, that y'all consider the merits of the old fashioned "moustache" handlebar? Wider for more control and comfort, with many hand positions available, but sweeping forward of the stem and down, (like much flattened road bars) it can provide a very good climbing posture, regardless of the steepness of your particular beach...Nitto brand moustache bars are available from Grant Peterson at Rivendell Bikes in Walnut Creek CA. No, they won't work with grip-shifters, but index-style top and bar-end shifters are still available, as far as I know. That son of a beach, I under stand the extra sweep that some of the riser bars have may be comfortable, but the height puts me to far back to climb. I do agree to each his own I have long arms and riser bars make me feel like I'm riding a beach cruiser in the sit up and beg position. I couldn't climb or corner with them. The ones I tried were also too wide to be comfortable. ( no I am not little, anything but ) I also would have a hard time on the woodsier trails getting them between trees. JN From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Fri Jan 26 13:45:04 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:57 2005 Subject: White Sands MTB rides Message-ID: <14961.57808.563917.663827@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> The Hembrillo Battlefield and Rhodes Canyon MTB rides on the White Sands Missle Range have been scheduled for 2001. Info is in the "Other MTB Events" table at the bottom of: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-events.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 30 11:07:53 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:57 2005 Subject: A reminder on Texas SB 238 Message-ID: <14967.761.450380.51985@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> I just wanted to remind everyone about the Texas Senate Bill 238 which would make cycling in many parts of Texas a real problem. http://www.biketexas.org/sb238.html http://www.lancearmstrong.com/txbill.html Contact info for the Texas state legislators is available on the above sites. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson From mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu Tue Jan 30 11:10:48 2001 From: mleisher at crl.nmsu.edu (Mark Leisher) Date: Fri Feb 18 10:16:58 2005 Subject: Training ride reminder Message-ID: <14967.936.26273.262206@helion.crl.nmsu.edu> I'm going to be doing a couple A Mountain loops tomorrow afternoon about 3:30pm at fairly high speed. We meet at the I-25 culvert next to Pan Am Center. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Leisher Computing Research Lab Cinema, radio, television, magazines are a New Mexico State University school of inattention: people look without Box 30001, Dept. 3CRL seeing, listen without hearing. Las Cruces, NM 88003 -- Robert Bresson